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From The Audiophile’s Guide: The Two Main Types of Loudpeakers – Box and Panel

From The Audiophile’s Guide: The Two Main Types of Loudpeakers – Box and Panel

Exotic designs aside, box speakers, whether stand-mounted or floorstanding, are the most ubiquitous in today's market. No matter how the designers (and their marketing teams) dress it up, they’re essentially a box containing one or more speaker drivers. At the very beginning of the home-reproduced sound era, music came mainly through a large horn – think of old Gramophones – but it wasn't long before those horns got stuffed into wooden boxes. Those boxes were called consoles or cabinets, and they were often complete systems containing the record player, radio, record storage shelves, amplifier, and speakers. This was the age of the hi-fi console, and millions of homes had console sound systems.

Fast forward a few decades into the late 1940s and early 1950s and we get the introduction of what came to be known as separates. The guts of the console systems were separated into their component pieces: amplifier, radio tuner, turntable, and a wooden box with a woofer and tweeter. Companies like AR, Klipsch, Altec, JBL, and Magnavox produced large and small wooden boxes stuffed full of woofers and tweeters.

 

Aspen FR10 box speakers

Box Speakers

Today, the separate box speaker might look and sound quite different from those of yore, but in principle they're the same. They're commonly referred to as dynamic speakers because, for the most part, they use traditional dynamic driver elements first introduced by pioneers like Jensen, Rice, and Kellogg (no, not the breakfast cereal guys – though sometimes they do snap, crackle, and pop).

 

Magico M6 box speaker with tweeter, midrange, and woofers showing.


Let's understand how a modern box speaker actually works. At its heart, a dynamic speaker driver is essentially a sophisticated motor. The basic principle hasn't changed much since the 1920s: you have a cone or dome (the driver) attached to a voice coil suspended within a permanent magnet. When electrical signals from your amplifier flow through the voice coil, it creates a magnetic field that interacts with the permanent magnet, causing the cone to move back and forth, pushing air and creating sound waves.

A typical modern box speaker contains multiple drivers, each optimized for different frequency ranges. The woofer, usually the largest driver, handles the low frequencies. Its cone might be made of materials ranging from traditional paper to exotic composites like Kevlar or carbon fiber. The tweeter, typically a small dome made of silk, aluminum, or other materials, reproduces the high frequencies. Many speakers also include a midrange driver for frequencies between the woofer and tweeter.

But there's more to a box speaker than just drivers. The cabinet itself plays a crucial role in sound reproduction. Unlike those early console designs, modern speaker cabinets are carefully engineered acoustic environments. The internal volume is precisely calculated, and many include sophisticated bracing systems to prevent unwanted resonances. Some designs incorporate internal chambers, ports, or passive radiators to enhance bass response.

The crossover network is another critical component. This electronic circuit divides the incoming audio signal, sending different frequencies to the appropriate drivers. Modern crossovers can be incredibly complex, using high- quality capacitors, inductors, and resistors to ensure smooth transitions between drivers.

 

ELAC Debut 2.0 bookshelf speakers.

 

Today's box speakers come in various configurations. There's the classic two-way design with a woofer and tweeter, three-way systems that add a dedicated midrange driver, and even more complex arrangements. Some incorporate multiple woofers, while others use sophisticated driver arrangements to control dispersion patterns.

The exterior design has evolved dramatically too. While some manufacturers still craft beautiful wood veneer cabinets, others use modern materials like high-gloss composites, aluminum, or carbon fiber. Shapes have evolved beyond simple rectangles to include curved panels, slanted baffles, and complex geometric forms – all in service of better acoustics and aesthetics.

The evolution continues with active speakers, which incorporate built-in amplifiers and digital signal processing. These modern interpretations of the box speaker can adjust their output to room acoustics, compensate for placement issues, and even connect directly to digital sources.

Despite all these advances, the fundamental challenge remains the same: creating a box that can reproduce music naturally and convincingly. The best designs manage this through a combination of advanced materials, sophisticated engineering, and careful attention to the complex interactions between drivers, crossover, cabinet, and room acoustics.

Understanding these principles can help you make better choices when selecting speakers and positioning them in your room. Whether you choose a simple two-way monitor or a complex flagship design, knowing how box speakers work will help you get the best performance from your system.

The advantages of a box speaker include:

Good bass
Generally lower cost
Can play very loud
Easy for an amplifier to drive
Full frequency response
Wide listening area
Easy setup in the room 

The disadvantages of a box speaker often include:

Large boxes cluttering your space
Often very heavy
Dynamic drivers are high-mass and often slow-sounding

Panel Speakers

Unlike box speakers, panel speakers look more like room dividers. As their name implies, they are typically flat rectangular panels with sound coming out of both sides. They are perhaps a few inches thick and can range in size from something close to a modern flat panel television to as tall as an Asian dressing screen or portable room divider.

Panel speakers first hit the consumer market back in the early 1950s, with Arthur Jantzen's electrostatic speaker and Peter Walker's well-known Quad electrostatic loudspeaker. In the late 1960s and into the '70s, panel speakers became popular as companies like Magneplanar entered the scene, as well as Acoustat and later Martin Logan.

What all these products had in common was a lack of boxes; though some, like Martin Logan, combined panels and boxes. These tall thin frames produced sound in ways very different than the dynamic drivers and boxes that still dominate the field of speakers today.

Magneplanar 2.7i panel speakers.

 

The technology behind panel speakers is fascinating. Instead of using conventional cone drivers to move air, they employ large, lightweight surfaces that move as a whole. There are two main types: electrostatic and planar magnetic. Each works differently, but both aim to achieve the same goal: reproducing music with minimal distortion and maximum transparency.

MartinLogan Classic ESL9 hybrid electrostatic loudspeaker.

 

Electrostatic speakers operate on an intriguing principle. Imagine a very thin, lightweight plastic film, coated with a conductive material, suspended between two perforated metal plates (called stators). This film, often just a few microns thick, carries a fixed high-voltage charge. When the audio signal is applied to the stators, it creates varying electromagnetic forces that make the film move back and forth, producing sound waves. Because the film is so light and moves uniformly across its entire surface, it can respond to audio signals with remarkable speed and precision.

Planar magnetic speakers, like those made by Magnepan, use a different approach. They employ a thin film membrane with embedded or printed conductors, positioned near permanent magnets. When audio current flows through these conductors, the membrane moves in response to magnetic forces, creating sound waves. This design can produce detailed, natural sound while typically being more robust and easier to drive than electrostatics. (Planar magnetics are what we use in the PS Audio Aspen speakers for the midrange and tweeter.

Me standing in front of the ultimate planars, the Infinity IRS V loudspeaker system.


The unique characteristics of panel speakers create several advantages. Because they move air in a fundamentally different way than conventional speakers, they can achieve exceptional clarity and openness in sound. The large surface area means they don't have to move as far as conventional drivers to produce the same volume, potentially reducing distortion. Many music lovers describe their sound as more "natural" or "lifelike" compared to traditional box speakers.

Panel speakers also create sound differently in your room. Because they radiate sound from both front and back surfaces (dipole radiation), they interact with the room in unique ways. This can create a more spacious, three-dimensional soundstage when properly set up. However, this same characteristic means they typically need more space behind them to sound their best.

There are challenges too. Panel speakers generally need to be larger than box speakers to reproduce low frequencies effectively. They often require more powerful amplifiers to drive them properly. Their dipole radiation pattern means room placement becomes more critical – they typically need more space around them and careful positioning to sound their best.

The modern panel speaker market offers various approaches. Some manufacturers, like Martin Logan, combine electrostatic panels for upper frequencies with conventional woofers for bass, creating hybrid designs that aim to blend the best of both worlds. Others, like Magnepan, remain committed to pure planar magnetic designs across the full frequency range.

Recent innovations have addressed some traditional limitations of panel speakers. New materials and manufacturing techniques have improved reliability and durability. Advanced design software has helped optimize performance. Some newer models incorporate curved panels or variable-thickness membranes to control dispersion patterns.

Panel speakers represent a different philosophy in sound reproduction. While box speakers attempt to control and damp resonances within their cabinets, panel speakers aim to eliminate the cabinet altogether. They seek to create sound in a way that more closely mimics how acoustic instruments naturally radiate sound waves.

What all these products had in common was a lack of boxes; though some, like Martin Logan, combined panels and boxes. These tall thin frames produced sound in ways very different than the dynamic drivers and boxes that still dominate the field of speakers today.

The advantages of a panel speaker include:

Excellent high-frequency response
Excellent transient response
Amazing clarity
Shallower footprint compared to boxes

The disadvantages of panel speakers often include:

Having to look at giant room dividers
They often do not play loudly
They can be tough for amplifiers to drive
They have limited bass response
They can be difficult to set up
Very narrow listening area
Their frames vibrate

While we audiophiles love to endlessly bicker over what speakers to buy, most of us end up opting for box speakers over panels. Why? There are two great reasons: first, because only a select few choose to place large panels into their homes and tolerate their technological eccentricities; and second, because the thin speaker drivers used in panel speakers can also be placed in boxes, offering many of the same sonic advantages.

I liken those who play with panel speakers to those who lust after vintage automobiles. Sure, they’re unique, and in some ways have better qualities than what modern manufacturers pass off. For instance, if you like to work under the hood, vintage cars have plenty to tinker with, while modern cars might as well be a giant iPhone with wheels. But can I be honest with you? Not many people I know want to dirty their hands fixing old cars. Hell, I drive an electric car that doesn’t even have a hood to look under!

My point is simple. If you want great performance without learning a new trade or getting a divorce, you’re likely going to want to pass on panel speakers and move straight away into the box variety.

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From The Audiophile’s Guide: The Two Main Types of Loudpeakers – Box and Panel

From <em>The Audiophile’s Guide:</em> The Two Main Types of Loudpeakers – Box and Panel

Exotic designs aside, box speakers, whether stand-mounted or floorstanding, are the most ubiquitous in today's market. No matter how the designers (and their marketing teams) dress it up, they’re essentially a box containing one or more speaker drivers. At the very beginning of the home-reproduced sound era, music came mainly through a large horn – think of old Gramophones – but it wasn't long before those horns got stuffed into wooden boxes. Those boxes were called consoles or cabinets, and they were often complete systems containing the record player, radio, record storage shelves, amplifier, and speakers. This was the age of the hi-fi console, and millions of homes had console sound systems.

Fast forward a few decades into the late 1940s and early 1950s and we get the introduction of what came to be known as separates. The guts of the console systems were separated into their component pieces: amplifier, radio tuner, turntable, and a wooden box with a woofer and tweeter. Companies like AR, Klipsch, Altec, JBL, and Magnavox produced large and small wooden boxes stuffed full of woofers and tweeters.

 

Aspen FR10 box speakers

Box Speakers

Today, the separate box speaker might look and sound quite different from those of yore, but in principle they're the same. They're commonly referred to as dynamic speakers because, for the most part, they use traditional dynamic driver elements first introduced by pioneers like Jensen, Rice, and Kellogg (no, not the breakfast cereal guys – though sometimes they do snap, crackle, and pop).

 

Magico M6 box speaker with tweeter, midrange, and woofers showing.


Let's understand how a modern box speaker actually works. At its heart, a dynamic speaker driver is essentially a sophisticated motor. The basic principle hasn't changed much since the 1920s: you have a cone or dome (the driver) attached to a voice coil suspended within a permanent magnet. When electrical signals from your amplifier flow through the voice coil, it creates a magnetic field that interacts with the permanent magnet, causing the cone to move back and forth, pushing air and creating sound waves.

A typical modern box speaker contains multiple drivers, each optimized for different frequency ranges. The woofer, usually the largest driver, handles the low frequencies. Its cone might be made of materials ranging from traditional paper to exotic composites like Kevlar or carbon fiber. The tweeter, typically a small dome made of silk, aluminum, or other materials, reproduces the high frequencies. Many speakers also include a midrange driver for frequencies between the woofer and tweeter.

But there's more to a box speaker than just drivers. The cabinet itself plays a crucial role in sound reproduction. Unlike those early console designs, modern speaker cabinets are carefully engineered acoustic environments. The internal volume is precisely calculated, and many include sophisticated bracing systems to prevent unwanted resonances. Some designs incorporate internal chambers, ports, or passive radiators to enhance bass response.

The crossover network is another critical component. This electronic circuit divides the incoming audio signal, sending different frequencies to the appropriate drivers. Modern crossovers can be incredibly complex, using high- quality capacitors, inductors, and resistors to ensure smooth transitions between drivers.

 

ELAC Debut 2.0 bookshelf speakers.

 

Today's box speakers come in various configurations. There's the classic two-way design with a woofer and tweeter, three-way systems that add a dedicated midrange driver, and even more complex arrangements. Some incorporate multiple woofers, while others use sophisticated driver arrangements to control dispersion patterns.

The exterior design has evolved dramatically too. While some manufacturers still craft beautiful wood veneer cabinets, others use modern materials like high-gloss composites, aluminum, or carbon fiber. Shapes have evolved beyond simple rectangles to include curved panels, slanted baffles, and complex geometric forms – all in service of better acoustics and aesthetics.

The evolution continues with active speakers, which incorporate built-in amplifiers and digital signal processing. These modern interpretations of the box speaker can adjust their output to room acoustics, compensate for placement issues, and even connect directly to digital sources.

Despite all these advances, the fundamental challenge remains the same: creating a box that can reproduce music naturally and convincingly. The best designs manage this through a combination of advanced materials, sophisticated engineering, and careful attention to the complex interactions between drivers, crossover, cabinet, and room acoustics.

Understanding these principles can help you make better choices when selecting speakers and positioning them in your room. Whether you choose a simple two-way monitor or a complex flagship design, knowing how box speakers work will help you get the best performance from your system.

The advantages of a box speaker include:

Good bass
Generally lower cost
Can play very loud
Easy for an amplifier to drive
Full frequency response
Wide listening area
Easy setup in the room 

The disadvantages of a box speaker often include:

Large boxes cluttering your space
Often very heavy
Dynamic drivers are high-mass and often slow-sounding

Panel Speakers

Unlike box speakers, panel speakers look more like room dividers. As their name implies, they are typically flat rectangular panels with sound coming out of both sides. They are perhaps a few inches thick and can range in size from something close to a modern flat panel television to as tall as an Asian dressing screen or portable room divider.

Panel speakers first hit the consumer market back in the early 1950s, with Arthur Jantzen's electrostatic speaker and Peter Walker's well-known Quad electrostatic loudspeaker. In the late 1960s and into the '70s, panel speakers became popular as companies like Magneplanar entered the scene, as well as Acoustat and later Martin Logan.

What all these products had in common was a lack of boxes; though some, like Martin Logan, combined panels and boxes. These tall thin frames produced sound in ways very different than the dynamic drivers and boxes that still dominate the field of speakers today.

Magneplanar 2.7i panel speakers.

 

The technology behind panel speakers is fascinating. Instead of using conventional cone drivers to move air, they employ large, lightweight surfaces that move as a whole. There are two main types: electrostatic and planar magnetic. Each works differently, but both aim to achieve the same goal: reproducing music with minimal distortion and maximum transparency.

MartinLogan Classic ESL9 hybrid electrostatic loudspeaker.

 

Electrostatic speakers operate on an intriguing principle. Imagine a very thin, lightweight plastic film, coated with a conductive material, suspended between two perforated metal plates (called stators). This film, often just a few microns thick, carries a fixed high-voltage charge. When the audio signal is applied to the stators, it creates varying electromagnetic forces that make the film move back and forth, producing sound waves. Because the film is so light and moves uniformly across its entire surface, it can respond to audio signals with remarkable speed and precision.

Planar magnetic speakers, like those made by Magnepan, use a different approach. They employ a thin film membrane with embedded or printed conductors, positioned near permanent magnets. When audio current flows through these conductors, the membrane moves in response to magnetic forces, creating sound waves. This design can produce detailed, natural sound while typically being more robust and easier to drive than electrostatics. (Planar magnetics are what we use in the PS Audio Aspen speakers for the midrange and tweeter.

Me standing in front of the ultimate planars, the Infinity IRS V loudspeaker system.


The unique characteristics of panel speakers create several advantages. Because they move air in a fundamentally different way than conventional speakers, they can achieve exceptional clarity and openness in sound. The large surface area means they don't have to move as far as conventional drivers to produce the same volume, potentially reducing distortion. Many music lovers describe their sound as more "natural" or "lifelike" compared to traditional box speakers.

Panel speakers also create sound differently in your room. Because they radiate sound from both front and back surfaces (dipole radiation), they interact with the room in unique ways. This can create a more spacious, three-dimensional soundstage when properly set up. However, this same characteristic means they typically need more space behind them to sound their best.

There are challenges too. Panel speakers generally need to be larger than box speakers to reproduce low frequencies effectively. They often require more powerful amplifiers to drive them properly. Their dipole radiation pattern means room placement becomes more critical – they typically need more space around them and careful positioning to sound their best.

The modern panel speaker market offers various approaches. Some manufacturers, like Martin Logan, combine electrostatic panels for upper frequencies with conventional woofers for bass, creating hybrid designs that aim to blend the best of both worlds. Others, like Magnepan, remain committed to pure planar magnetic designs across the full frequency range.

Recent innovations have addressed some traditional limitations of panel speakers. New materials and manufacturing techniques have improved reliability and durability. Advanced design software has helped optimize performance. Some newer models incorporate curved panels or variable-thickness membranes to control dispersion patterns.

Panel speakers represent a different philosophy in sound reproduction. While box speakers attempt to control and damp resonances within their cabinets, panel speakers aim to eliminate the cabinet altogether. They seek to create sound in a way that more closely mimics how acoustic instruments naturally radiate sound waves.

What all these products had in common was a lack of boxes; though some, like Martin Logan, combined panels and boxes. These tall thin frames produced sound in ways very different than the dynamic drivers and boxes that still dominate the field of speakers today.

The advantages of a panel speaker include:

Excellent high-frequency response
Excellent transient response
Amazing clarity
Shallower footprint compared to boxes

The disadvantages of panel speakers often include:

Having to look at giant room dividers
They often do not play loudly
They can be tough for amplifiers to drive
They have limited bass response
They can be difficult to set up
Very narrow listening area
Their frames vibrate

While we audiophiles love to endlessly bicker over what speakers to buy, most of us end up opting for box speakers over panels. Why? There are two great reasons: first, because only a select few choose to place large panels into their homes and tolerate their technological eccentricities; and second, because the thin speaker drivers used in panel speakers can also be placed in boxes, offering many of the same sonic advantages.

I liken those who play with panel speakers to those who lust after vintage automobiles. Sure, they’re unique, and in some ways have better qualities than what modern manufacturers pass off. For instance, if you like to work under the hood, vintage cars have plenty to tinker with, while modern cars might as well be a giant iPhone with wheels. But can I be honest with you? Not many people I know want to dirty their hands fixing old cars. Hell, I drive an electric car that doesn’t even have a hood to look under!

My point is simple. If you want great performance without learning a new trade or getting a divorce, you’re likely going to want to pass on panel speakers and move straight away into the box variety.

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