Very different vs. right or wrong

September 16, 2021
 by Paul McGowan

Octave Recording artist and trumpeter extraordinaire, Gabriel Mervine, notes near the end of this video that “vinyl sounds different. Very different.”

In fact, identical master recordings sound very different depending on the recorded medium.

Which one is right?

One could easily suggest that because the recording was captured on DSD that playback would be right only when reproduced using the same technology.

Yet to many, the music sounds more “real” and “right” through the lens of vinyl.

As audiophiles, we’re always in search of sonic truth.

Though truth, as I mentioned in an earlier post, isn’t always the same for everyone.

Very different can be just as right as very right.

It’s all in your perception.

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59 comments on “Very different vs. right or wrong”

  1. “It’s all in your perception”…your preference, your hearing, in your opinion & often in your budget.
    ‘Sonic truth’ is also a subjective minefield.
    I know what I want out of my home audio rig & I’m not sure that it is anyone else’s sonic truth.
    In other words is sonic truth the same for everyone?
    It may well be, if not now then maybe sometime in the future, possible to accurately measure sonic truth with electronic measuring devices (hello ‘CtA’) but will said measured sonic truth still universally appeal to every pair of ears on the planet?
    I think not.
    When you go to a live concert or listen to canned music with your partner or with a friend do you spend time after the concert discussing the music or the sonics?

    1. Very well said Fat Rat. All ears do not hear the same truths, so the search for sonic truth is subjective to the hearer. ” Questioning is a useful tool but questions bring doubt, doubt breeds dissatisfaction and dissatisfaction is a first step towards future sales.” By Richtea and Steven not to be confused with Steven ” I don’t get hung up about “the truth”, I just like enjoying listening to music.” All well spoken. Grab and glass, a bottle or cup of your favorite beverage and sit down and just listen. Really listen to your system. Take all of the pitches out of your head. The real key is what?

      Keep Listening
      Hawk 🙂

    2. Good morning FR!
      What you said, is so very true man!
      Because, you can’t use measuring tools to measure what your ears really hear.
      That’s just like tubes verses transistors.
      Some people, like tubes.
      I’m one of those people.
      Other people, like transistors.
      Each techknallagee, don’t have the same sound.
      But on the other hand, tubes aren’t for everyone either.
      But what sounds good to me, may not sound good to you.
      By the way, thank you for putting CTA in check about that!
      All of us as individual people, have to figure out what works best for us.
      Not all sizes fit all people.
      Everyone is different in our own Yuneec special way.
      The sooner we learn that, the better off we all will be.

  2. As usual today’s post poses questions though recently we have been mapping the moral high ground in our quest for the ultimate audio experience. Questioning is a useful tool but questions bring doubt, doubt breeds dissatisfaction and dissatisfaction is a first step towards future sales.

    However, read in a different vein, it could be saying whatever system you have it’s right, for you. So just sit back, relax and enjoy. If found, contentment is a wonderful place.

  3. I don’t get hung up about “the truth”, I just like enjoying listening to music.

    There is a very fine trumpeter called Matthew Halsall who set up a record label called Gondwana Records with his brother in Manchester in 2008 for local artists and it has done very well with good international distribution. They do lots of vinyl and his last album “Salute to the Sun” is well worth a listen or 10.

    One of my favourite artists is the French/Lebanese trumpeter Ibrahim Maalouf. I have his early albums on CD (ripped years ago), others on vinyl and have streamed his latest, 40 Melodies. They are all enjoyable. I buy music, not formats.

  4. If they both sound good then it might not matter which one is right or not. The only time it would matter is if one sounded bad and that would signal which one is right. But I do enjoy the sound of a good recording on vinyl. First pressings. It does sound more real and right to my ears.

    1. Me too Joe. I love the sound of new vinyl before the crap gets on it and the cleaning process starts. There’s nothing like it!

      Off topic, I just added a new vintage Velodyne Subwoofer and OMG! what a huge difference in my sound now. 15″‘s of monster!

      Keep Listening

      1. The 15 inch Velodyne, I believe, was a sealed box with accelerometer mounted on the corner voice coil with a controlling unit.
        Awesome, one of my earliest encounters with a good subwoofer.

        I later had an M&K sat/sub system with passive electronic XO and a pair of nice Tandberg class A mono-blocs delicious.
        Having formally begun my audio buying life back in mid-70s, I’ve always had bi-amped setups and essentially separates.

        This the “truth” (at least in listening) for me.

        But I digressed (really far) ‍♀️

      2. I have an 18″ Velodyne Subwoofer and while it’s only 600 watts with headroom it is a MOSFET class AB and it sounds wonderfully warm and musical. I’m looking for another for stereo subs and see it’s better than my Carver Signature 2700 watt subs that I do have stereo pairs. Vinyl is lush and musical. Doesn’t have the digital edge or get tiresome. Enjoy!

  5. Great video Paul! I love the sound Gabriel’s jazz. Never heard of him before. Anxious to buy the record. But I thought Octave was in a commercial building? The video shows the studio in a house?

    1. The studio shown in the video was from earlier sessions he participated in as I didn’t have any video of the actual Octave Recording, only still shots that are included in the booklet associated with the album (which you can download if you go to the album page).

    1. I love this, too 😉

      As soon as we have a perfect chain from recording to reproduction, we just need perfectly neutral and accurate equipment as well as a perfectly measuring room and will get it right. Until then, we have to continue to voice/color our playback from mic, over cartridge, DAC, amp, cabling, speakers to room, in order to get closer to what sounds more right in our environment to our ears.

  6. I watched the video an as far as I understood, instead of saying what’s cited above, Gabriel said “The listening experience of vinyl is just different” and it get’s clear by his further talking, that he means the concept and process, determined by the physical experience, the flipping of shorter sides, that it’s a more concentrated listening without looking on a phone etc. He seems to like the medium for that reason and is proud to have his music on it.

    Neither “sound quality”, nor “right”, “wrong” or “truth” were his topic.

    Regarding Paul’s topic…from my unfair experience with a quite fully tweaked out Directstream DAC and a similarly tweaked out but clearly more expensive record player, I wouldn’t want to use the words more “right”, “wrong” or “true” for the one or other, not even “very different” and especially not “warm/pleasant” vs. “sterile/annoying”.

    IMO: Finally, the better both get, the closer they get because they approach the same goal from two sides. For digital it’s extremely difficult and expensive to reach the kind of information advantage, vinyl has in terms of ambiance, air, 3D rendering, prat and openness. For vinyl reproduction it’s extremely difficult and expensive to reach the accuracy and freedom from distortion, good digital has, especially demanding in bass.

    Regarding dynamics, for vinyl it’s not only hard to reach digital’s dynamic range, but impossible (however important that is for anyone), for digital it seems hard to reach the practical dynamic performance of vinyl within a given dynamic range.

    Both strive for the “truth” and will be more “right”, as soon as they get closer. Until this happens, none of them …or both are “wrong”. At different price levels of digital or vinyl, the perception of which sounds more “true” varies, depending on which of the before mentioned characteristics one’s focus is on.

    1. I fully agree. As nothing is perfect the digital DSD track will never sound identical with the same track from the grooves. And there are many more steps of signal transformation for the vinyl track compared to the digital track – each step adding it’s own noise and distortion. And if you haven’t the same high-end DSD-DAC used for mastering the DSD-tracks you will never get the same level of sound quality at home. Thus I wonder and can’t wait to hear which level of quality and accuracy – especially concerning the transients – the new top-tier DAC of Ted Smith will offer for the PS Audio community.

      1. paulsquirrel, I have SACD’s and vinyl of the same album done by the label ( either MoFi or Analog Productions ) When I play the SACD ( I have a PS Audio PST and DS DAC ) and the vinyl of the same album I always prefer the vinyl. A while back Paul had a post about the “magic” of vinyl. To be clear, IMHO, the magic of vinyl is not an-arm-and-a-leg difference vinyl and DSD, it is a very subtle difference. I often wonder if the vinyl magic is just there because I am ingrained with it. I’m in my 70’s, there was no such thing as an SACD when I started play music at home, only vinyl.

        I also have a TASCAM hi-rez digital recorder that records in DSD. I can record my vinyl playback in DSD and toggle between the actual vinyl playback and the DSD playback. When I do this I hear no difference between the two. The magic of vinyl is in the playback which I find remarkable given how different cartridges sound and how different phono preamps sound.

        I am also waited for the new DAC from Ted Smith.

        1. I have made a similar experience even with original masters from actual (digital) recordings and not only from some old analog recordings from Sheffield’s Labs. And things are even more strange. All (!) my audiophile buddies – most of them having no turntable – prefer the sound of the vinyl version even when I play the vinyl via my TacT ADC and my newest DAC (Weiss 501) activating its internal EQ-settings for room-equalization. Thus my DACs cannot be the weakest link. 😉 Obviously the mastering engineers should be forced to reveal how they manipulated the digital and the analog version during the final mastering process and if the dynamic range doesn’t differ.

        2. In my case, although the DS with all the mods got much better and is really strong in the important fields, the vinyl rig still beats it clearly, even in digital‘s strengths. But a previous vinyl rig of „just“ 2-3 times the price of the DS did not in all fields. I don’t persuade myself to this.

          Also in my case analog recorded stuff with the same mastering on SACD always sounds much better on vinyl, while differences of digital recorded stuff vinyl/SACD are smaller.

          I also heard much more expensive DAC‘s than the DS, which again get closer, but don’t better it in every regard and which still don’t jump over the analog recording difference on vinyl. Then there are 20k phono stages which would again open another world…

          The good thing is, the DS with all the mods is on an extremely high level now with digital recordings (which are mostly not available on vinyl anyway). I’m very happy with it like that and it’s a killer performance for the price.

    2. jazznut, WOW, your paragraph that starts with “IMO:” sums up my experience exactly. As I have improved both my vinyl playback and my digital ( SACD ) playback the closer they have come in SQ. And you are right that it cost noticeably to get great vinyl playback than to get great digital playback. I have data from a survey down in another online audio forum were people indicate how much the spend on their system and then whether to preferred vinyl or CD’s. There was a clear correlation between spending and preferring vinyl. Many commented that it cost more to have a great vinyl system.

  7. The only thing that matters is how much you enjoy what you are listening to (sorry, Fat Rat for ending my sentence with a preposition). Sometimes different equipment helps, more often it’s better recordings that help.

    1. Ignore Fat Rat on this occasion! You can end a sentence with an intransitive verb. The problem is using the present progressive tense. Just the present tense might be preferable “… how much you enjoy what you listen to”. But I wouldn’t lose sleep over it, or the fact that you’re not meant to start a sentence with a conjunction.

  8. Like some others here (not all !) I am also a person who listens to MUSIC, not to formats.
    Soundquality IS important, but the music much, much more important.
    And i said it before, when you go to a live concert, are you listening to “soundstage” or other audiophile inventions from sound engineers ?
    I don’t, I only listen and enjoy the music. As always YMMV.
    And as much as I love to listen in the evening to 1 or 2 cd’s through my “high-end” system, I can also thoroughly enjoy the music through my relatively simple audio system on my computer desk.
    Since his name is mentioned : I own the cd “Red & black light” by Ibrahim Malouf.
    Some other trumpet players I like are Ron Miles and Eric Vloeimans, especially his fusion oriented music.

  9. I signed up to HD Vinyl for news letters the last one was on13th of April this year.After a few months delay due to covid 19 the pressing machine has finally arrived.The newly built machine is currently being installed.
    So I’ve not heard anything since but hopefully new HD vinyl is on the horizon something different to try with no compatibility issues.
    Does anyone here have any more current information.

  10. Seems that there have been two descriptive words bouncing around this month…‘perception and preference’. As a senior, I feel very comfortable using these two descriptive words in my day- to-day music listening sessions. And, as many seniors today, I find myself on a limited income so my spending habits have changed radically after my 60 years of living the life of a ‘Beg, borrow and steal’ audiophile. I doubt that I will be purchasing more audio equipment unless absolutely necessary and concentrating on ‘cherry picking’ new music that I want to hear. This meant that I needed to find a reliable way to find more of the types of music that I love and downplay the role of my existing equipment that helps me to make my listening experience the most pleasurable possible according to my own perception. In a prior post I described how I go about finding new recordings using my three different sources at my disposal… I start with streaming so that I can find new recordings by my favorite performers and locate new musicians that I have never heard before in order to get to the next step. If a recording really stirs my soul I will probably make a purchase and decide whether it should be a CD or a vinyl recording. Since both CD and vinyl mediums are perceived to sound preferential to my ears I make my decision to purchase by how often I think I’ll listen to these recordings in the future because playing vinyl is a giant pain in the ass even though it may be well worth the trouble. If I really believe that I will listen to this recording more than a half dozen times per year then I’ll purchase the CD. On the other hand, the collector in me may possibly change my mind and I’ll make the vinyl purchase if I am sure that the quality of the recording is outstanding.

    This is the path that I will most likely follow now as my equipment becomes much less of a factor out of necessity. Last but not lease, for my peace of mind I have decided to settle for this listening method from now on. I refuse to make myself crazy anymore over these daily posted topics that seem to be disrupting the pleasure of having better listening experiences. My time left on Earth is limited and I have to find ways to enjoy myself from here on. I just can’t deal with topics like ‘very different vs. right from wrong’ anymore for my own peace of mind.

    Each one of us has our own path and I really believe that I’m choosing the right one for me. This doesn’t mean that I won’t be following posts anymore… I just won’t allow myself to get entrenched so deeply unless the daily post makes me salivate.

    To jb4. My remarks are based on the current world that I live in. I am a music first over format person. With that said, my ability to listen to live music at present and probably in the future is extremely limited. I look back fondly to all of the live experiences that I have had since the age of 17 with great joy and affection. My comment today is based on my necessities in life at the moment.

    1. Good morning Neil!
      Well said, and right to the point too!
      I’m just 11 months away from turning 50.
      Sure, there are killer systems that I’d like to own.
      But like you said, lots of money it will cost you.
      The older you get, the more you start thinking about things that are more important then stereo equipment.
      So, ya, I get that.
      Because after all, when you get ready to leave this world, you can’t take your stereo system with you.
      You’re luddy if you make it out of here, with the cloeths on your body.

      1. Thanks for the kind words John. You have a good idea of how much money I’ve sunk into my system and it’s no small amount. I can’t keep going on like this especially when I’m happy with the sound coming from my speakers. I’ll just keep on doing what I said in my prior post.

      2. It is fascinating how most comments here refer to listening TO the equipment. I try to listen THROUGH the equipment. I try not to get into the equipment issues. This is why i prefer transparently measuring equipment, they don’t add to what the music makers decided when they recorded the music.
        It is the same when I go to a concert at the Bowl. I know that I am listening to a PA system, but I listen to the music. Sometimes, the PA system helps you understand what the conductor or soloist want you to hear. This may be harder in a concert hall but good conductors achieve this. At the Bowl, the performers use the PA for you to listen what they want you to hear.

        Last week’s concert by a Polish woman was a good case. She played a piece by another Polish woman composed in Warsaw in 1943. It sounded bass heavy until you saw that the rather small orchestra had 4 double basses. Incredibly for the time it was composed, it was almost a happy piece. Then Grimaud did a wonderful execution of Schumman’s concerto. The piano sounded great, even though it was too loud for the orchestra. It did not sound like you hear it in a hall. But a hall sound depends where you sit. This sounded like a piano next to you. You adapt to hear the music, not the equipment.

        Sometimes, it can get weird, as when a violinist playing a Stradivarius sounded louder than the orchestra in Piazzolla’s Four Seasons. (Why would you play a Stradivarius through a PA?). This was a little missed opportunity for that piece.

        And for the organ lover here (Joseph?), Cameron Carpenter plays Bach’s Goldberg Variations at Disney October 17. I don’t know if he’ll play his organ or the halls. PA or “acoustic”? We will be there.

        1. CTA, I’ve been to, and worked behind the seems of some concerts in my days too.
          What you said about the PA system, is true up to a point.
          If the equalization for the mane speakers in the house is wrong, it’s gonna make the whole entire performance, fall apart.
          I know this, because I’ve both seen and heard this in action, too many times before.
          Some of the people I yoost to work for, allowed me to fine tune the system for them.
          And by the time I got threw with it, everything sounded the way it all was suppose to.
          Remember, on the mixer itself, there are multiband equalizers on each one of those mikes.
          If any of them are wrong, then they won’t pick up the sounds correctly.
          I’ve had to fine tune those as well.
          Then after that, we ran sound checks.
          If everything sounded ok, then we left it all alone.
          Just something that I thought I’d share with you.

          1. Thanks for the comment. My point related specifically to the Bowl and not other venues. We have had season tickets there for years. It is our favorite LA thing to do. Our seats are very close to the monitoring desk. A few times, before the concert, I have spoken to the sound engineers. They were surprised I was curious about their work.

            The quality of the sound actually varies depending on who is playing. You do get the best sound when Dudamel conducts. According to the engineers I spoke to, Dudamel sometimes goes to listen to rehearsals just where they work, so he can hear what the audience will hear.

            We went a few weeks ago to listen to HER. The sounds was atrocious, even the LAPO sounded bad that day. I presume that the knobs were worked by others.

            But I heard there John Fogerty, Peter Gabriel, Sting, Gabriela and Rodrigo, Tony Bennet and Lady Gaga, Diana Krall, etc., and the sound was very good.

            What I like about that PA is the good sound of instruments. Forget about spatial localization. You have to suspend disbelief for that. Our seats in Disney tend to be a little away from the players, so sound localization there is not the best. However, some instruments do not sound well there. It has to do with the acoustics of the place.

        2. CtA, Your 100% right. I say to people “how does the new amp sound” when I should say “how does the music sound when played through the new amp”. For me it is just laziness on my part. Fewer words to type, get more done quicker, etc. We should all slow down a little, but the odds of that are slim at best.

            1. There’s no ‘jumping on you’ when you are correct ‘CtA’.
              ‘Steven ntbcw Steven’ said the same thing in one of his comments last year, before you joined us…that he doesn’t listen to his Hi-Fi system but rather that he listens to music through his Hi-Fi.
              It is pretty-well accepted here on Paul’s Posts that, as ‘tonyplachy’ says, when we say “listen to” we are just being lazy & what we actually mean is ‘listen through’.
              Hopefully this (my) reply will save you from having to repeat yourself about this point 🙂

              1. I did not ask for your opinion or intervention. If English Steve wants to say something, he will.

                Being lazy is something that I have noticed quite a lot, but not so much on terminology. People here are always claiming “fatigue”, removing veils, etc. They always describe the equipment and not the music.

                1. ‘CtA’,
                  I know that you didn’t ask for my opinion or intervention.
                  For all of your “apparent” intelligence you seem to have a problem understanding how an open forum works.
                  Never mind, with time & just a bit more ‘life experience’ you may indeed come to understand that open forums allow anyone & everyone to reply to mediocre & uninteresting comments like yours 😉

                    1. ‘CtA’,
                      I never said that I would provide you with life experience.
                      You must seek that out yourself Grasshopper.

  11. More and more live concerts will come the next months/years.
    If you want to wait till Corona is “gone”, then prepare yourself to keep waiting for the rest of your life.
    Corona, like any other virus (e.g. flu), is here to stay.
    As always with new diseases medical treatment will improve and it’ll be part of our daily life, without lockdowns etc.
    Wanna visit a theatre, concert, sport stadium? Then you gotta have a document to prove/show you are vaccinated.
    If not, go home or elsewhere…

    1. I live in South Florida and there are a lot of insane people down here when given the opportunity to go to public places they go hogwild, no masks no care about other people no nothing. I have an alternative treatment that I’ve been using for eight years for viruses and it works very well for me but I don’t recommend it to anyone else and this virus scares the hell out of me even though I’ve been vaccinated. If I could find a safe venue then I would definitely consider going to a club or a concert but right now it doesn’t look very good from what I can see when I drive around at night in areas where there are a lot of nightclubs

      1. Here in S Mississippi it’s pretty much the same. My wife and I still haven’t went to a restaurant for a sit down meal, still doing takeout. I’m definitely with you on not going to clubs, until the medical community gets better at curing a case of COVID and a lot less overwhelmed we won’t be going anywhere people are packed in.

        Edit: Forgot to add, we’re both vaccinated and still wear masks in public.

  12. The real major problem with digital is the use of chips. They give an unnatural sound. It causes listener fatigue in sensitive individuals. Ladder DACs avoid this problem.

    Typical phono cartridges make the music smoother than real life, and sounds pleasant in comparison to chip digital. By default, the rubber holding the cantilever in place has a smoothing effect. I listened to records with a Decca London cartridge years ago. It avoided using rubber on the cantilever and had a direct effect on the sound which was immediate. What I heard sounded much more like what I hear with a good ladder DAC. From what I see online Decca cartridges are very expensive today.

    1. You do realize that after the signal leaves the microphone in the recording process, almost the entire chain until it reaches you is chip dependent. The conversion to digital, the processing, the distribution, even the manufacturing and on a CD, the reading of the signal is chip dependent. There is no ladder ADC. There is no tube in sight. (Well, maybe some old exotic microphone preamplifier may still have some tubes). Even if guitarists use their “tube heads”, everything else is chip dependent. The plug ins, the echos, distortion added, the “tube effects”, all of it is chip dependent.

      But you think that reversing this with a ladder DAC causes a difference? Most ladder DAC have very poor measurements, but very rich prices. You think that dragging a piece of crystal through plastic is more accurate? Or it is that you “like” to add coloration to the signal?

      As I said, we have to hear through the equipment. The equipment should modify as little as possible the signal we get. It is reproducing the music and not adding production elements.

      1. I am not anti-chip. I have one preamp that sounds excellent that I placed a Muses 01 in the socket.

        I am speaking of when a chip handles the digital processing in a DAC. Its imperfections and can cause listening fatigue.
        A ladder-resister DAC will sound less typical “digital” when well implemented. It can sound analog without the cantilever haze typical phone cartridges produce.

        As long as it sounds good to you and does not cause fatigue? Go for it.

        1. I still don’t know what listening fatigue is. I know what it is to be fatigued.
          Chips have far fewer imperfections than ladder DACs, the difference is really big. Ladder DACs are part of this mythology to take money from people.
          I also have no idea what “sounds more analogue” really means, or “more digital”.
          I get tired or fatigued riding my nike or running. Sometimes the recording is not something I like, but then it is the music that fatigues me. Not the system.

          1. CtA,
            Not “listening fatigue”, it’s ‘Listener’s Fatigue’…got it?
            And if you don’t understand ‘Listener’s Fatigue’ as it
            applies to home audio (canned) music & you really
            want to understand it then ‘Google’ it, because
            I’m done with explaining it.

            1. Well, in my opinion, what you suffer is “listening fatigue”. You get tired of listening to your music in your system.
              You can google all sorts of things. You can find out that the election in the US was “stolen” if you google it. That doesn’t make it true.

              1. FWIW, Here is what I know about listener/listening fatigue. Some times it is caused by playing music too loud or if the music is too bright. Some people get it from listening to MP3 or CD’s. I my personal cased back in the 90’s I found that if I listened to CD’s for more than 45 minutes to one hour I would get a headache. When I discovered SACD’s I found I could listen to them for as long as I wanted without getting a headache. I think it is a very individual problem and varies from person to person. I knew someone who was not be able to listen to metal dome tweeters because they gave him a headache.

  13. Does worrying make the virus stop at your frontdoor ?
    Does worrying make you better if you’re ill ?
    Does worrying make you feel better ?
    Does worrying scare off Corona or any other virus ?
    Does worrying give me a better chance to pass the exam ?
    Maybe you do, but do I wanna spend the rest of my life worrying ?
    The answer to all these questions is NO.
    In other words worrying is totally pointless. It does not solve anything. It makes you only feel sick, mentally and physically.
    That’s a lesson i already learned in highschool.
    So I don’t worry about this or any other virus. I do what I can do, vaccine, distance, no handshaking.
    And for the rest slowly but surely back to normal.
    I enjoy life and music as part of that life. When my time comes, so be it. Worrying won’t give me 1 extra day.

    1. Good afternoon JB4!
      Here is a rime that I remember, hearing, over and over again, in a gospel song.
      “If you pray, don’t worry.
      If you worry, don’t pray.”
      I don’t worry about much of anything anymore these days.
      Do you know why I don’t worry?
      Because God has it all, in the palms of his hands.

    2. jb4,
      That’s so true, I couldn’t agree more, but try telling a worrier not to worry will have minimal effect. I’ve tried many times, with different people, but they just keep on worrying. If I dare stick my head above the parapet here, I’d have to say, and I know generalisations are bad, but in my experience, it’s the women that tend to worry more than men.

      Another thing I’ve found. If a man has a problem he wants a solution. If a woman has a problem she wants empathy. I read that somewhere a long time ago but over the years I’ve learnt that whoever wrote it knew what they were talking about.

    1. oliverkalyan,
      I’d agree with that neat logic but what happens in the dark. Those with the night vision goggles (lenses) are going to perceive a lot more clearly 😉

  14. I gotta play catch up because Paul Churns out post fast these days, however I think this one I can be brief to relate to the understanding of Paul’s post here.

    “Hearing Is Believing.”
    Quite simply this says it all for me and I think what some others have relayed on here. You gotta get out there and put your feet in the water sort of speak. You gotta try things. You don’t have to convince other people either. You just have to do it yourself.
    That is what I tell people who express some Keen interest in audio. 😉

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