Higher sample rates vs. standard

June 13, 2022
 by Paul McGowan

7 comments on “Higher sample rates vs. standard”

  1. Hey Paul, I accept that we will hear a difference but are you saying that the 24/192 rate will sound BETTER than the 16/44.1 rate, or just simply different?

  2. Well there’s lots of ifs and and buts but, generally, yes. If for no reason other than how most DACs work. Certianly an original recording in both sample rates the higher will sound a lot better.

  3. I’m fortunate to be able to turn Upsampling on and off via a remote control using a Chord MSCALER which offers (3) levels of Upscaling to try, while listening.

    The Upscaled sound is different and “better” in my opinion. I say that because the overall sound is noticeably more discreet and less “congealed” overall, offering more pinpoint accuracy of instrument placement.

    Attack and Decay are also noticeably improved and sound more realistic.

    This Hobby is a hoot!!

  4. I have made wave files up to 64bit float, all the way up to 396KHZ.
    If I have to listen to wave PCM files, then the 64bit float 396KHZ, is the way to go.
    Most DVD and blueray players can decode those kind of files.
    But, in less someone on here tells me a little better then what I both know and understand about CD players, they can’t do that.
    Even when burning files like these to a CD, they get down cempled.
    Why couldn’t an electronics manufacturer make either a CD player with a good enough DAC in it, that will take high rez wave files like the ones I’m talking about, and play them as is?
    I don’t think that any audio company has ever thought about doing that.
    And I guess that’s why the sails of audio CD’s have been sloping downwards.
    People are looking for much higher quality sound then what an audio CD has to offer.

  5. Paul, to paraphrase, if I correctly understand what you’re saying. When you upsample a 44.1/16 file to, say, 176.4/24, most modern DACs will work at their optimum performance, allowing them to reveal more of the musical information contained in the original 44.1/16 file than if the DAC were to just render the file at 44.1/16.

    Just a follow-up question. Does it make a difference if, in the upsampling process, you switch from sampling rates based on multiples of 44.1 KHz to those based on 48 KHz? For example, upsampling 44.1/16 to 192/24?

    1. Well, sorry, you’re asking an engineer a very specific question to which I must answer no. No, if you upsample you will hear no more information.

      What I am saying is that if you upsample 44.1 to a higher rate, most DACs will now use a much less aggressive filter which has less phase shift and other debilitating effects on the music.

      There’s no more information but now there’s less ham-fisted impacts on that same information.

      1. Paul,

        I agree on the first part. No “new” music is added. However, I don’t know of any filter in modern properly designed DACs that will have any debilitating effect on the music. This is especially true at the frequencies close to the filter setting, there is very little music there and those frequencies are very rarely heard even by young people when masked by the music. You are probably commenting on filters that are not used these days.

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