I think in order to store a DSD recording onto a disk it has to be stored on a SACD disk and played back on an SACD capable player otherwise if played on a standard CD player you would only hear the standard pressing and not DSD.
Joe,
That’s providing that it’s a ‘hybrid disc’, ie. it has both
DSD & PCM layers in the disc, otherwise your standard
CD player won’t read it & the display will show ‘NO DISC’
I’m not Paul, but … SACD is the name of the physical disc – “Super Audio Compact Disc”. DSD is the digital encoding type. An SACD layer is, by necessity, a DSD bit stream. So in some sense the terms are used synonymously.
SACD players, by design, are able to read the Redbook CD, 16/44.1K layer, if present. I have some SACDs that only have the SACD layer, so they cannot be played on a Redbook CD player. All Redbook only, 16/44.1K discs can be played on either type of player/transport.
Thank you for your careful explanation. It was not clear to me if there were three encoding systems, CD, SACD, and DSD. Now Paul’s comments make sense.
Another vote for HDCD. It never really caught on because like SACD, it only appeals to audiophiles. I am sometimes surprised by the sound of a disc, turn round and see the HDCD light illuminated on my DAC even though there is no mention on the cover or disc itself. Covert HDCD discs are out there. The Best of Dire Straits & Mark Knopfler is one.
Interesting about the Dire Straits HDCD disc. Covert indeed my paperwork and transport say nothing. Another format that can sound great is Blu-spec 2. I am especially loving The Road East-LIve in Japan by Jackson Browne.
Yes. Blu spec CD is excellent. I recently picked up “DIRECT” by Vangelis.
It is awesome. Best copy I own. It is a matter of taste however, but the clean sound really works with a ton of electronic music. 🙂
My fifteen HDCDs do sound great & I wish there were more available.
Before single bit DSD there was SBM (single bit mapping) in 44.1/16…
my Pink Floyd – ‘Wish You Were Here’ 24K gold plated CD is proof of that.
Paul you seem to be using SACD and DSD as synonyms. Are they truly the same thing?
I think in order to store a DSD recording onto a disk it has to be stored on a SACD disk and played back on an SACD capable player otherwise if played on a standard CD player you would only hear the standard pressing and not DSD.
Joe,
That’s providing that it’s a ‘hybrid disc’, ie. it has both
DSD & PCM layers in the disc, otherwise your standard
CD player won’t read it & the display will show ‘NO DISC’
To: Fat Rat: Oh!
I’m not Paul, but … SACD is the name of the physical disc – “Super Audio Compact Disc”. DSD is the digital encoding type. An SACD layer is, by necessity, a DSD bit stream. So in some sense the terms are used synonymously.
SACD players, by design, are able to read the Redbook CD, 16/44.1K layer, if present. I have some SACDs that only have the SACD layer, so they cannot be played on a Redbook CD player. All Redbook only, 16/44.1K discs can be played on either type of player/transport.
Thank you for your careful explanation. It was not clear to me if there were three encoding systems, CD, SACD, and DSD. Now Paul’s comments make sense.
Hi Earl,
A base model Marantz – ‘CD6007’ will also read 48/24, 96/24 & HDCD.
I wish HDCD had caught on. To my ears, it sounds better than either.
I love HDCD also.
I’m a bit irritated on Microsoft who bought it since I can see no meaning for Microsoft too own the HDCD-rights.
Indeed…and do nothing whatsoever with it bar remove it from the marketplace. Was noticeably superior on my HDCD equipped player also.
Another vote for HDCD. It never really caught on because like SACD, it only appeals to audiophiles. I am sometimes surprised by the sound of a disc, turn round and see the HDCD light illuminated on my DAC even though there is no mention on the cover or disc itself. Covert HDCD discs are out there. The Best of Dire Straits & Mark Knopfler is one.
So is TOOL’s Lateralus.
A great sounding HDCD.
Interesting about the Dire Straits HDCD disc. Covert indeed my paperwork and transport say nothing. Another format that can sound great is Blu-spec 2. I am especially loving The Road East-LIve in Japan by Jackson Browne.
Yes. Blu spec CD is excellent. I recently picked up “DIRECT” by Vangelis.
It is awesome. Best copy I own. It is a matter of taste however, but the clean sound really works with a ton of electronic music. 🙂
My fifteen HDCDs do sound great & I wish there were more available.
Before single bit DSD there was SBM (single bit mapping) in 44.1/16…
my Pink Floyd – ‘Wish You Were Here’ 24K gold plated CD is proof of that.
Oh you got me beat. I’ve got only 8. They are rare. A little too rare.