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Would like to hear from those non-beta testers who have started receiving their new DMP players.
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December 18, 2016
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So where to begin.  I got my new player this past Friday and let it play on repeat for the last 36 hours.  my reaction is this: WHOLLY GUACAMOLE.

This unit is a serious and wonderful upgrade from the already amazing PWT.  I would say that the difference is almost as great as when i switched from the Marantz Black Pearl player  (a fantastic stand alone unit i might add) to the PWT.   One of my favorite demo cds is So by Peter Gabriel.  it is both well recorded and yet very frustrating because of an overly bright/sizzly top end.  the PWT does a great job with it, but the DMP allows more power and oomp to come through. plus the top end,  while still bright,  is a lot less sizzly and a lot less congested.  I think the strength of the DMP is its incredible ability to resolve inner detail without adding brightness.  So the music is both more detailed,  more powerful,  and less congested.   I think that Paul and his great team have a masterpiece on their hands.  I have said this before with regard to other gear,  but i cannot imagine how this beast can be improved on.  But knowing Paul, and his team,  it will be for sure.   THANKS GUYS.

 

Add on:  I would be remiss in not mentioning the incredible sound stage that i am getting. the room and speakers have disappeared like never before.  Try Anasastia by Dead Can Dance and see what i mean.  Truly the most three dimensional sound i have ever heard from a home system.77_gif77_gifdancing-009_gif

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Paul – I was wondering when the DMP will be reviewed by some of the major audiophile media outlets? 

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Review units shipped out on Friday. Print magazines take quite some time to put ink on paper. Webzines much quicker.

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December 19, 2016
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Let’s hope they realize that when not using I2s, the signal quality is slightly suboptimal (if they haven’t got a DS ready).

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Frode, by “suboptimal” to you mean only that I2S is the best quality output if you can take advantage of it, or that the other outputs are somehow deficient?

I expect the vast majority of the reviewers will only listen to the non-I2S outputs as they will not have any way to try I2S.

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Frode, by “suboptimal” to you mean only that I2S is the best quality output if you can take advantage of it, or that the other outputs are somehow deficient?

I expect the vast majority of the reviewers will only listen to the non-I2S outputs as they will not have any way to try I2S.

Not deficient really, but I consider I2s to be simply better than the rest, exhibiting the DMP full potential (saying this without auditioning the DMP).

I agree with your last sentence.

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Review units shipped out on Friday. Print magazines take quite some time to put ink on paper. Webzines much quicker.

Paul, did y’al by chance offer review units with a combo of the DS? As @Frode notes, this is probably how the DMP sounds best. Granted, one would want to show people how the DMP is better than whatever they’ve got through whatever DAC they already have and know, but………

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You bet we did.

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Excellent!

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Got my DMP today. One day early. Took the little feet off, gingerly placed it on top of my DS DAC. Perfect fit, of course. Then I turned the puppies on.

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My two word review:

Holy crap!

I played a crappy SACD with a meh recording (Volodos Rach 3, amazing performance) and was impressed. Then I put the assistant granddaddy in: Munch and the BSO with Saint-Saens Organ Symphony on SACD. OMG! I almost spilled my bourbon when the organ came in at the start of the fourth movement. I’ve never heard it like that! What bass definition! Then, some DSD files of Stan Getz on an NTFS formatted flash drive. Great sound but the navigation is clunky. One album at a time is okay for the USB input.

The granddaddy is next: Daphnis et Chloe, with Munch and the BSO on SACD.

More to follow…

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I lied. The next one up was the Blu-ray Audio disc of Wagner’s Ring. Fail. Wouldn’t play at all. Recognizes the disc, but no cigar. Shame, this would’ve been a great test. Peter Gabriel’s So sounds overly bright. But that’s just the way these damned pop stars cut their records.

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Okay, this is an issue that’s been really ticking me off for months and months now. Why in the hell does the DS DAC go into MUTE mode all of a sudden in the middle of a track? I experienced it with the Oppo via Coax and now with the DMP. It’s incredibly annoying. It happens completely at random. I thought it was the Oppo but I guess not…

Is there any way to disable the MUTE function? Is this a bug?

NOTE: I forgot, it’s happened with MinimServer streamed music as well.

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Have you tried another cable? The only time I’ve experienced this (not with these components) a faulty cable was the culprit. . . .

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Have you tried another cable? The only time I’ve experienced this (not with these components) a faulty cable was the culprit. . . .

One is a Transparent coax and the other a Transparent HDMI. (And AudioQuest Ethernet cables.) These are very good, quality interconnects. I can’t wrap my head around the fact that the cable is to blame here. And anyway, it’s happened when I’m streaming via Ethernet. It’s very weird. It’s totally random. It happens just often enough to piss me off but not enough to send the DS DAC back for a look-see.

 

(P.S., Dark Side of the Moon SACD sounds incredible. More detail than I’ve ever heard from the DSD layer. And dead quiet when it has to be.)

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Okay, this is an issue that’s been really ticking me off for months and months now. Why in the hell does the DS DAC go into MUTE mode all of a sudden in the middle of a track? I experienced it with the Oppo via Coax and now with the DMP. It’s incredibly annoying. It happens completely at random. I thought it was the Oppo but I guess not…

Is there any way to disable the MUTE function? Is this a bug?

NOTE: I forgot, it’s happened with MinimServer streamed music as well.

You are not accidently using another IR Remote when the mute occurs? Sometimes other product’s IR code might interfere with some IR functions elsewhere and creates utter confusion.

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You are not accidentally using another IR Remote when the mute occurs? Sometimes other product’s IR code might interfere with some IR functions elsewhere and creates utter confusion.

No, only the new PS Audio remote*. The Oppo remote is the only other one I use. However, you bring up an interesting point. Could a streaming device like an AppleTV (or the wireless dongle on the Oppo) cause this? Would that cause interference? I don’t think so, but I’m at a loss…

 

(*The new remote control is awesome. The old DS DAC remote is in the bin of forgotten devices.)

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I prefer to use the old remote more often myself as it also controls the P10. 

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The granddaddy is next: Daphnis et Chloe, with Munch and the BSO on SACD.

Did you get back to this recording?  The orchestral textures and small expressive dynamic shifts would be a wonderful test.

The old DS DAC remote is in the bin of forgotten devices.)

:)

I have not had surprise mutes with the DS as you describe.  I too would have suspected the cable, but for its occurrence on multiple inputs.  I think Frode may be correct that it is caused by another controller or interference.  It may be worth loading earlier firmware and reloading the latest just in case it somehow is corrupt – but this is a long shot.

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George Moneo said
The granddaddy is next: Daphnis et Chloe, with Munch and the BSO on SACD.

Did you get back to this recording?  The orchestral textures and small expressive dynamic shifts would be a wonderful test.

The old DS DAC remote is in the bin of forgotten devices.)

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I have not had surprise mutes with the DS as you describe.  I too would have suspected the cable, but for its occurrence on multiple inputs.  I think Frode may be correct that it is caused by another controller or interference.  It may be worth loading earlier firmware and reloading the latest just in case it somehow is corrupt – but this is a long shot.

I ran out of time last night. Three solid hours of listening, all great. All SACD or DSD files. Some of it jaw-dropping. Lots and lots of detail, wide soundtstage, great bass on all discs. Better than the 105. Dark Side of the Moon was amazing. I’ll listen to the Daphnis tonight. It’s really the best orchestral recording I can test with — and I know it like the back of my hand. I’ll listen to Redbook as well; I haven’t played a CD yet. Got loads of tests there. First one will be, of course, the Mahler 9 with Karajan and BPO live.

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You are not accidentally using another IR Remote when the mute occurs? Sometimes other product’s IR code might interfere with some IR functions elsewhere and creates utter confusion.

No, only the new PS Audio remote*. The Oppo remote is the only other one I use. However, you bring up an interesting point. Could a streaming device like an AppleTV (or the wireless dongle on the Oppo) cause this? Would that cause interference? I don’t think so, but I’m at a loss…

 

(*The new remote control is awesome. The old DS DAC remote is in the bin of forgotten devices.)

As long as it is IR one can never be sure, but isn’t Apple TV bluetooth?

I have experienced jamming on several occasions, also from 3D TV goggles emitter. Try putting a piece of tape over the DS IR receiver for a start and see what happens or try your other remotes. You may also record the IR code or look it up.

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Try putting a piece of tape over the DS IR receiver . . .

A simple, great idea!

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As long as it is IR one can never be sure, but isn’t Apple TV bluetooth? I have experienced jamming on several occasions, also from 3D TV goggles emitter. Try putting a piece of tape over the DS IR receiver for a start and see what happens or try your other remotes. You may also record the IR code or look it up.

AppleTV (Gen 4) is both WiFi and Bluetooth. Although I have Bluetooth turned off. I’ll try it. Something’s gotta be causing it. I’ll put it out of service if it’s the cause. No biggie.

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Delicious. Next up, Daphnis.

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The wife got caught up on a three-hour conference call last night so my listening session was cancelled. But…

I’m listening to Daphnis right now. I’m impressed.

Addendum at 19:23 EST: The first thing that comes to mind is that everything just sounds… right. Can’t describe it better. Everything that’s there is there. Lots of fine detail I’m hearing, little things that remind you of a live performance. Bass is truly impressive; the Oppo never achieved this, as good as it is. Not exaggerated, just… right. Paul & Co. have really done something here. More later.

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I’m listening to Daphnis right now. I’m impressed.

The BSO Munch recording SACD is strangely affordable at Amazon.  But wasn’t that recorded at a time when dinosaurs roamed the earth, played from scores carved in stone tablets?  Such is the case with many of the offerings from that same series.  The performances are no doubt fabulous, but how can they be so great technically as to serve as reference for digital sound quality? Pardon my primitive state of knowledge in these matters; I am scarcely out of the trees.

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I’m listening to Daphnis right now. I’m impressed.

The BSO Munch recording SACD is strangely affordable at Amazon.  But wasn’t that recorded at a time when dinosaurs roamed the earth, played from scores carved in stone tablets?  Such is the case with many of the offerings from that same series.  The performances are no doubt fabulous, but how can they be so great technically as to serve as reference for digital sound quality? Pardon my primitive state of knowledge in these matters; I am scarcely out of the trees.

My dear sir, I take umbrage at your ageism! That recording was made one year prior to my birth… Dinosaurs, indeed! 21_gif

No mystery here: it’s a fantastic analog recording that received its due in DSD. If DSD is the reference standard it’s supposed to be — and I’m 100% convinced it is — then any great analog remastering will indubitably sound as close to the original as this technology can make it.

This is, far and way, the best I’ve ever heard this SACD. And, this is my fourth (and maybe last) SACD player/transport I’ve owned…

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I’m listening to Daphnis right now. I’m impressed.
Lots of fine detail I’m hearing, little things that remind you of a live performance.

Excellent.  What I really enjoy is the timbrel texture and complexity, coupled with microdynamic changes one hears with expressively playing.  Subtle, but so critical for it to sound real.

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 The performances are no doubt fabulous, but how can they be so great technically as to serve as reference for digital sound quality?

A more than reasonable question. 

Sound recording technology has always been far, far ahead of playback and this remains the case.  For example, many of the microphones used at the time are still used and revered for their sound quality.  Analog tape also sounds fabulous.  Consider what the DMP has done for the playback of 1980’s CD technology.

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I just finished listening to Daphnis.

I’ve played this disc on my two Marantz SACD players, on a cheap Sony, on my Oppo and now on the DMP. It’s no contest. The level of detail this sucker has pulled out of the disc is mind-blowing. At one point during the last track, the castanets were right in the center, at the back of the orchestra. I’ve never heard that staging until tonight.

Bravo to Paul, Ted, and the engineering team at PS Audio.

(And I haven’t even heard a CD yet…)

Fritz Reiner’s CSO recording of Bartok’s Concerto for Orchestra is next…

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December 21, 2016
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Frode said
Try putting a piece of tape over the DS IR receiver . . .

A simple, great idea!

An inelegant solution, but it seems to be working. Not a single MUTE incident tonight, with almost 2 hours of listening.

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Excellent!  Now to figure out what is triggering it.

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