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Ahhh – finally!  Music pour-eth forth!  Sounds great.  No judgements, tests or comparisons at this point, just glad to finally have it plugged in.clapping_gif

Why did it have to arrive on the same night as the first Cubs World Series Game 7 in over a Century??pulling-hair_gif

Playing this SACD Sampler that came (many moons ago) with a Sony SACD player:

1) James Taylor – Line ‘Em Up

2) Midori/Eschenbach – Mozart Allegro from Concerto for Violin, Piano and Orchestra in D Major

3) Miles – So What (what I like to think of as the “spitty version” due to the sound of Cannonball & Coltranes’ saxes)

4) Roger Waters – Perfect Sense (Parts I and II) from In The Flesh

 

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Initial Impressions

Program & Communications

 Regular members of these forums will already know what it’s like being a customer of PS Audio. But I think it bears stating for new visitors here that, from my perspective, the experience could not be better. I have bought a lot of audio equipment in my life, most of it from good people and/or organizations. There is the occasional egoist in this industry, and there are folks who could stand to step up their communication skills. Some companies don’t seem to have good internal processes, even though their products are excellent. PSA has it all, and it obviously starts at the top. Paul is not just a gentleman, he’s a smart gentleman who puts his customers first. He shares his passion with his customers, and he works tirelessly to educate the us, and to share his knowledge and vision. His team seems to share this viewpoint.
 
Development news of the DMP was shared as early as possible, and the beta process was announced in rolled out in an organized manner. There were some small bumps in the road, but Paul and his team accepted the feedback and interacted with it in a constructive way. From conception to rollout, everything seemed to be done ahead of time. This forum thread was set up ahead of time. Etc.
 
Unboxing
 
My DMP was delivered by FedEx on schedule, signature required. Even in a nice neighborhood, you don’t want something this obviously valuable sitting on your doorstep. Love PSA boxes. They were my first experience with “suspension packaging,” and I am amazed that more companies don’t employ it. Unlike other PSA product I have bought, this arrived with little documentation, as Paul has explained earlier, the manual not yet completed. Power cord and what I believe is an HDMI cable different from the production cable that will eventually be shipped with the DMP. For now, per Paul, “any HDMI cable will do” [that’s not flame-bait]. Remote control and batteries. The remote button labels are a. It of a challenge for old eyes. 
 
I chose silver finish for my DMP, as a contrast with my black DS. The finish is beautiful; it’s not like. Rushed aluminum, more like a smooth but textured stone appearance. All edges of the product are smooth, fluid, contiguous. PSA is not a huge company, but they produce equipment that is top shelf in fit, finish, and heft. The front USB port is a bit unsightly, but short of a plug, there may not be much one can do about that. 
 
[See pics; apologies if I screw up the pic upload; I noticed that the vertically oriented pics load on the page sideways until clicked on, whereupon they right themselves.]
 
System Integration
 
The DMP is intended to be connected directly to a PSA DirectStream via I2S. I connected the DMP via the included PS Audio branded HDMI cable; I also have a nice cheap cable by KabelDirekt Pro recommended by Arnie Nudell, but which has not received glowing reviews here. I’ll try that at some point. My DS contains a Bridge II network adapter and, until now, played music exclusively from a Synology RS2416+RP, containing two 2TB SSD drives and 10 Western Digital Red 6TB drives. The DS is connected to a Cisco SG300-10PP switch, with intermediary Star Tech fiber converters powered with TeddyPardo PSUs. The switch is connected to my main Cisco SG300-28PP via single mode fiber. The NAS is connected to the switch through a 4-port bundled LAG. The NAS is powered through a TrippLite rack mounted AC filter/conditioner/UPS, on a separate circuit from both the headphone listening station and the speaker system. All Ethernet is Cat6. 
 
The NAS runs Roon Server. All music files reside on the NAS. One of my comparison points also includes my MSB Select II, which is similarly isolated by a fiber converter. Because the Select is not yet Roon ready, I run a Mivera Superstream to deliver Roon functionality to the Select through its USB port. My Select has both QuadDSD and Network Renderer inputs. It will soon have the MSB I2S input as well, which I plan to at least try with the DMP [I have no idea if that will work]. 
 
The DS is powered by a PSA P5 regenerator connected to the main by a Cerious Graphene High Current 1.5m cable. It feeds a Mjolnir-Audio Carbon amp, that drives either a Stax SR-009 or Stax SR-007 Mk1. First listening reported here was all done on the 007. The DS and the DMP AC cables are Cerious Low Current Graphene 1.5 meter cables. The balanced ICs are also Cerious Graphene 1.5 ICs.
 
The DMP sits on top of the DS. I have not [yet] added any additional isolation or vibration treatment for the DMP. PS Audio Power Bases are on their way, but I probably won’t place them in the system until my Mapleshade rack is delivered. 
 
Music Comparison Selection
 
I am a dedicated network audio fan. I believe in network audio’s ability to deliver packet information to a quality DAC, free of constraints from spinning devices, in-chassis power supplies, etc. I’ve been trying to get away from revolving discs for at least 15 years. But Paul McGowan has said that, to his ears, the DMP/DS combo is slightly better than network audio over the Bridge II/DS combo. That’s high praise, and that’s the primary thing I want to listen for. As part of my beta opportunity, I wanted to use music I know well, and for which I have both quality discs and bit-perfecrt ripped files. The following are the discs I chose to test:
 
Dire Straits Dire Straits SACD
Dire Straits Brothers In Arms SACD
Dire Straits Alchemy Blu-ray
Keb’ Mo’ Keb’ Mo’ MoFi SACD
Dead Can Dance Into The Labyrinth 
Robert Shaw ASO Verdi Requiem [Telarc]
Ray Brown Trio Soular Energy DVD-A
Getz & Gilberto Getz/Gilberto SACD
AC Timba Jazz Neurosis Blu-Ray Audio
Supertramp Crime of the Century Blu-ray Audio & MoFi Redbook
Moonlight Acoustica DVD-A
Trixie Whitley Porta Bohemica
Michael Hedges Aerial Boundaries SACD
The Allman Brothers Band Live At Fillmore East SACD
The Cars The Cars SACD
Miles Davis Kind of Blue MoFi SACD
Peter Gabriel So SACD
Yo Yo Ma Vivaldi’s Cello Redbook
Yo Yo Ma Tango SACD
Wishbone Ash Argus SACD-SHM
The Who Who’s Next SACD-SHM
The Who Quadrophenia SACD-SHM
The Rolling Stones Some Girls SACD-SHM
The Police Synchronicity SACD
The Alan Parsons Project I Robot SACD
Piano Music In a Church DVD-A
John McLaughlin Mahavishnu Orchestra Birds of Fire SACD
Di Meola/McLaughlin/di Lucia Friday Night In San Francisco SACD
Steely Dan Aja SACD-SHM
Shelby Lynne Just a Little Lovin’ SACD
Sade Bring Me Home Live DVD-A
Rush 2112 DVD-A
Roxy Music Avalon SACD
Bryan Ferry Boys & Girls SACD-SHM
 
Some of my favorite hi-res tracks I cannot compare, because I only own them as digital files, e.g., Blue Coast purchases like Fiona Joy Hawkins, etc. And while I have thousands of discs I would gladly test, I had to narrow down the list to a manageable group. If any forum reader has a particular disc on which they would like comments, please sing out and I will b happy to give it a spin if I have it.
 
PLEASE REMEMBER: Except for ripping discs in either a modified Sony PS or my Oppo, or playing the occasional AIX Blu-ray or a DVD in my Oppo, I have not been spinning discs for serious music listening for over 10 years. There are truly golden-eared beta testers here who have been using the PWT or other transports for years, and who are much more attuned to the nuances of what their discs sound like now, and what they could sound like with the DMP. That’s not me. I am comparing spinning discs to network file playback.
 
Right now, burning in with Pink Floyd’s Wish You Were Here Limited Edition SACD. I wanted to start with Dire Straits Alchemy, but the DMP would only read this disc as a video disc, continuously repeating the opening menu background. Right now the WYYH is quite nice. No album art is displayed even though the DMP has Ethernet connectivity. Also, the screen does not show the name of the album, only the name of the current track. If I switch to the track listing, some track names are missing, though as the disc is played, all names are displayed correctly(sometimes briefly flashing the track number first), but without track numbers (can’t remember if that is intentional or not). The DMP level into the DS is higher than the Bridge output. I am able to cue up file comparisons pretty easily, but the DS/Bridge combo won’t quite let me switch on the fly using Roon as the controller. If I am playing a file with Roon, and I switch back to the DMP, the DMP will still be playing, but going back to the Bridge means starting playback all over. IOW, switching away from the. Bridge seems to stop Roon playback altogether. Haven’t tried this switching while using a UPnP controller yet. 
 
First impressions are very positive. The DMP seems to deliver the air and layers of WYWH very well. Soundstage is somewhat narrow at this point, but I won’t be surprised if this sounds quite different tomorrow. There is an edginess to the front side of guitar notes, but I need to go back to the NAS files to see if that is a rendering issue or just volume exaggeration. Localization seems very stable. 
 
Listening to Steely Dan’s Aja (SACD-SHM) is a similar experience. No disc name, track name only. In the track listing screen, most tracks are numbered only. The disc seems very forward in the DMP. Slightly edgy. Again, it’s only been playing for a little over an hour. Track forwarding from Black Cow (which appears by name on the screen) takes me to track 2 (Aja). But throughout playback, the song title never appeared (unlike WYWH, where track numbers flashed only briefly before being replaced by the track title). As before, air, layers and localization are quite good. Sax is quite nice, full, rounded, and reedy. 
 
Supertramp’s Crime Of The Century (Blu-ray Pure Audio) was a bit of a challenge. The track listing shows only one track, and time remaining shows 00:00. Time lapsed counts correctly, but the time slider does not move. Sonic quality on School is quite good and interesting. A bit 2-dimensional, but excellent layering and again very stable localization. The entire album played through. As each track came up, the number 1 stayed on screen but the time slider jumped forward slightly [see pic]. In a sense, the DMP “forced” me to listen to the entire album. Many audio critics don’t like the BRPA presentation of this album, but while it is different from the MoFi Gold version, and more forward, I like both. (The accusations of 40th Anniversary/BRPA brickwalling are simply incorrect.) Some of the keyboarding has the same edginess I have mentioned before. 
 
More to come. For now, superb work Paul and team! Thank you. 

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Just got my DMP today.  Out of the box it’s already sounds better than my Marantz SA11s3 SACD player.  But that’s not a really good challenge. The Marantz is only $4k and it ‘s from it’s own built in dac since you can’t output DSD from it. I’m using the DMP with the DirectStream dac.   Now that it’s a little warmed up, I compared the same music “We get requests” The Oscar Peterson Trio, SACD through the DMP with my Aurender N10 [$8k] DSD x64 downloaded file from Acoustic Sound and the SACD sounds less veil and more 3d solid.  With CD, forget it, not even close.  The DMP blows away the 16 bit files of the same recording from the Aurender. The cd files sounds a bit flat and veil.  I’m using the Aurender with the DirectStream dac since the Aurender does not have a built in dac.  I’m also using  the top USB cable from Cardas with the Aurender.  The Aurender is much better than the Marantz on 16 bit material.  The DMP really does sound like high resolution with Cd.  Hard to believe CD can sound so good. I’m using a 1.5m  Pangea hdmi cable from the DMP since I don’t have any high quality hdmi cable on hand and the cable that came with the DMP is too short.  The Cardas is only .5m since it is much closer to the dac.  Even though the Aurender has the advantage as far as cables are concern, it did’nt seem to matter with the DMP.  I wish the display could be dim though, it is a little bright on the DMP.

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I want to utilize the USB port more.  What file types can the DMP play from a USB drive?  I have all those hi-rez files from the B&W Society of Sound.  Rather than burning to DVD, I thought it would be far quicker to copy to a USB drive.  The native format is flac.

Thanks. 

FLAC should play just fine. When you plug in the USB stick it takes priority over discs and keeps that until unplugged. Let us know.

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Please don’t forget normal Redbook CDs vs Bridge II in your comparisons.

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I want to utilize the USB port more.  What file types can the DMP play from a USB drive?  I have all those hi-rez files from the B&W Society of Sound.  Rather than burning to DVD, I thought it would be far quicker to copy to a USB drive.  The native format is flac.

Thanks. 

I’m playing 24/96 FLACs off a 2TB Western Digital MyPassport plugged into the front USB port. I’ve got a directory structure about 5 levels deep and can navigate through it fairly easily. Throw something on your USB drive and give it a whirl! I’d be pretty happy if the DVD-A and BD navigation worked as well as the USB navigation does.

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Just got my DMP today.  Out of the box it’s already sounds better than my Marantz SA11s3 SACD player.  But that’s not a really good challenge. The Marantz is only $4k and it ‘s from it’s own built in dac since you can’t output DSD from it. I’m using the DMP with the DirectStream dac.   Now that it’s a little warmed up, I compared the same music “We get requests” The Oscar Peterson Trio, SACD through the DMP with my Aurender N10 [$8k] DSD x64 downloaded file from Acoustic Sound and the SACD sounds less veil and more 3d solid.  With CD, forget it, not even close.  The DMP blows away the 16 bit files of the same recording from the Aurender.  That’s saying a lot since the Aurender is much better than the Marantz on 16 bit material.  The DMP really does sound like high resolution with Cd.  Hard to believe CD can sound so good.  

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Thanks Palerider, what a thorough and excellent contribution to these forums.

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Right out of the box experience with the DMP.

1st disc – Midnight Blue; SACD vs FLAC/Roon/Bridge II vs vinyl

(Taking furious audiophiliac notes.. ambience, imaging, dynamics, blah blah blah).

Vinyl by a hair over SACD. Barely. I could listen to Chitlins all day.

2nd disc – Olias of Sunhillow; SACD vs WAV/Roon/Bridge II vs original issue vinyl. SACD, fuller, richer, more musical than either. Slam dunk.

(More notes, 1 glitch to report later.)

3rd disc – Reference Recordings 2015 HDCD Saint Saens Symphony no.3

That’s when it happened.. listening to the 2nd movement (poco adagio), I just put the pen down. It was simply amazing, the music just took over, major goosebumps/emotional response to the sound of the recording via DMP. I had to replay it three times.

 

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Just had brief power failure… P10s stayed on, BHK 300s off, dmp on, pre off, dsdac on.  Music was playing when it went down.

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Please don’t forget normal Redbook CDs vs Bridge II in your comparisons.

Thanks.

Not sure who this was meant for, but I have a few of those on my list [apologies if this is a duplicate post; I had a page reload glitch]

Right now, am listening to the DVD-A of AIX All Star Band’s Moonlight Acoustica, and while the track numbering and display are not behaving, and the DMP insists on saying it is playing the Surround track, and won’t play the Stereo track,, the sound is superb. There is a segment of the track that I particularly enjoy, and just now, it put goosebumps up and down my spine. I wish track navigation was a little smoother, so I could go back to the specific time location more easily, but I got there and replayed it three times. Carl Verheyen’s work on this album [and several other AIX recordings] is superb, and it comes through loud and clear on the DMP. 

The soundstage seems to be opening up while, as with the other tracks I have heard so far, localizations remains excellent. IOW, spatial reproduction seems to be improving. [BTW, if you can hear the MCH of this disc, or even better, watch it as well [with something like the Oppo], it is a true joy.

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I have to admit that I thought the front USB thing was a little gimmicky.

I was wrong.

Next to the incredible SACD performance, it’s the thing I have come to most like about this player. Audio performance, while very close, is better than that of the same files played via the Bridge II – better developed, more engaging mid-range. Also, the convenience of not having to run an NAS, computer, network, extra external interface, and so on, makes playing material off a drive attached directly to the DMP so much better and more enjoyable for me. No, I can’t make playlists, change EQ, rapidly switch between tracks, or easily play something I haven’t already copied to the USB drive I’m using, but I don’t care. Now if it would read some of the metadata, it’d be really great.

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Can’t wait for the production overseas units to arrive in Australia………….I have one on order

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I have to admit that I thought the front USB thing was a little gimmicky.

I was wrong.

Next to the incredible SACD performance, it’s the thing I have come to most like about this player. Audio performance, while very close, is better than that of the same files played via the Bridge II – better developed, more engaging mid-range. Also, the convenience of not having to run an NAS, computer, network, extra external interface, and so on, makes playing material off a drive attached directly to the DMP so much better and more enjoyable for me. No, I can’t make playlists, change EQ, rapidly switch between tracks, or easily play something I haven’t already copied to the USB drive I’m using, but I don’t care. Now if it would read some of the metadata, it’d be really great.

This is intriguing, though I cannot imagine trying to navigate through terabytes of files on the itty-bitty screen of the DMP. Track by track, it is a very nice screen, but for managing a library? No way, not for me anyway. And certainly not sufficient to shut down an NAS.

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 I cannot imagine trying to navigate through terabytes of files on the itty-bitty screen of the DMP. Track by track, it is a very nice screen, but for managing a library?

Folder by folder, not track by track. Its utility will be limited by how your collection is organized and how you play your music. Playing albums in folders is very workable. Playing individual tracks is less so. I’ve also found that moving to folders containing files the DMP doesn’t recognize makes it unhappy. Navigation isn’t speedy, but it’s faster than changing LPs.

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largenmt said
Please don’t forget normal Redbook CDs vs Bridge II in your comparisons.

Thanks.

Not sure who this was meant for, but I have a few of those on my list [apologies if this is a duplicate post; I had a page reload glitch]

Right now, am listening to the DVD-A of AIX All Star Band’s Moonlight Acoustica, and while the track numbering and display are not behaving, and the DMP insists on saying it is playing the Surround track, and won’t play the Stereo track,, the sound is superb. There is a segment of the track that I particularly enjoy, and just now, it put goosebumps up and down my spine. I wish track navigation was a little smoother, so I could go back to the specific time location more easily, but I got there and replayed it three times. Carl Verheyen’s work on this album [and several other AIX recordings] is superb, and it comes through loud and clear on the DMP. 

The soundstage seems to be opening up while, as with the other tracks I have heard so far, localizations remains excellent. IOW, spatial reproduction seems to be improving. [BTW, if you can hear the MCH of this disc, or even better, watch it as well [with something like the Oppo], it is a true joy.

The next firmware release will give you the option of choosing which layer you want to listen to. Hope to have that out this week. Stay tuned.

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I have to admit that I thought the front USB thing was a little gimmicky.

I was wrong.

Next to the incredible SACD performance, it’s the thing I have come to most like about this player. Audio performance, while very close, is better than that of the same files played via the Bridge II – better developed, more engaging mid-range. Also, the convenience of not having to run an NAS, computer, network, extra external interface, and so on, makes playing material off a drive attached directly to the DMP so much better and more enjoyable for me. No, I can’t make playlists, change EQ, rapidly switch between tracks, or easily play something I haven’t already copied to the USB drive I’m using, but I don’t care. Now if it would read some of the metadata, it’d be really great.

Thanks Reese, I too have found this “cute” feature to be somewhat of a blessing. I can’t tell you the number of times customers wanting to hear the big system arrive with their memory sticks only to discover there’s no good way to play them – until the advent of DMP. And yes, the sound from the USB drive we installed is remarkable.

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Sounding even better today. I agree with Mark that 100 to 200 hours should be on this before really being critical. . . but it’s hard not to hear how wonderful everything is sounding and not commenting. To Mark’s point I can already tell that the Redbook is better on the DMP than the PWT now, 44 hours in or so. It’s not going to sound worse, it’s going to continue to improve for a while!

I’ve found that I get better sound now with “Low Distortion” on the P10 than “High Regulation.” Seems to be indicative that the extra bit of detail and seeming resolution the DMP is dishing out is clean and clear. The highs seem even less grainy and there is an overall sense of further quickness. This is a great transport.

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lonson. Great news for sure. Please keep us updated on redbook. To me the redbook format will be the meat and potatoes of this new transport…at least for me.  

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Paul, are there any “settings” menus or whathaveyou that should be accessible?  Is there a way to set it to automatically play a disc when you put it in?

It is not playing DSD Discs for me, which is a bummer – sticks on the “Reading” screen.  Will send notes to Dennis.

I’m still not going to get into comparison listening (recovering from the lifting of the Curse of the Goat) but most everything I have put in just adds to what I like about the Junior, which is that it doesn’t sound “digital” at all. Sounds like really good analog gear.  77_gif

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Sorry – found the little dot thingies, which had not responded prior.  Why only visible when a disc is in?

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The next firmware release will give you the option of choosing which layer you want to listen to. Hope to have that out this week. Stay tuned.

That is great news Paul. Thanks. 

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Peanut Butter said

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 I cannot imagine trying to navigate through terabytes of files on the itty-bitty screen of the DMP. Track by track, it is a very nice screen, but for managing a library?

Folder by folder, not track by track. Its utility will be limited by how your collection is organized and how you play your music. Playing albums in folders is very workable. Playing individual tracks is less so. I’ve also found that moving to folders containing files the DMP doesn’t recognize makes it unhappy. Navigation isn’t speedy, but it’s faster than changing LPs.

Thanks, that makes sense. Peanut Butter also mentioned the advantage to being able to play guests’ files that they bring with them. I can definitely see the advantage there. I understand the utility. With there was a purdy way to cover it. 

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Initial response was very good – sound a lot more spacious on the Shelby Lynne Dusty CD than with the PWT – the highs as another reviewer noted – less etched – a perfect description.

Listening to Ahmad Jamal’s “Saturday Morning” CD it also sounded more spacious than on the PWT – but then the sound changed – I can’t describe how as yet – and the system actually demanded my attention! I then tried a CDR with some old Swamp Dogg tracks burned from the Kent Soul reissues. These had sounded very low tech and mushy on the PWT a function of the recording techniques of the 70s. These actually sounded better – way better on the DMP. I smiled.

The BluRay version of the 2L Magnificat sounded wonderful – but not discernibly different from the companion SACD DSD disc. It was very good sounding even on CD so I’ll have to take time in doing further comparisons.

Technical detail – the 2L Magnificat Bluray disc displays as one long track – the 10 tracks are not broken down. I cannot select any individual track. I’ll dig out my Solti Ring BluRay (all 14+ hours on one silver disc) and see whether this is the same. 

The 2L SACD shows 1 as the track indicator – it goes off briefly when the track changes but reverts to 1. Will SACDs use the MyList track data like a CD?

All playing to date using my 3m PSA 12 I2S cable. 

Important point for the technically limited – the SD card goes in the right way up on the DMP rather than upside down as on the PWT. 

No unit number on the display.

Build features

Great that PSA have built a user accessible fuse on the DMP. If you’ve ever had to change the fuses on the PWT you’ll really appreciate this feature and the two hours or so extra time in your life.

CD tray is far sturdier than the PWT and display greatly improved.

Back to testing shorter HDMI run and to see whether the DMP can bring some of the HipO Select CDs on Chuck Berry and Bo Diddley to life.

If it could it for the Dogg – then surely Chuck and Bo!

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My DMP has finally arrived. I was a little concerned when I first saw the box. It looked like it may have been reboxed by FedEx?
My other PS Audio products have always had a nice inner and outer box just made for nesting with each other. This time the 
outer box was either one larger box cut down, or 2 smaller boxes cut up and taped together. That, along with the extra long shipping
time (shipped on 10/28…..delivered on 11/03) for a 700 mile trip, had me a little worried at first. The good news is that the inner
box and the DMP arrived in good shape.

First a couple of quick visual observations. The casework has better fitting tolerances than any of my older (P5,DSD,PWT) cases.
Not that the other cases are poorly put together, this new one just a tighter and more refined look. I was initially going to remove 
the feet and stack the DMP on top of my DSD, resting on the felt pads. I quickly realized the one of the pads is covering what I assume
is a mounting bolt flange. The flange will prevent the DMP from sitting flat when stacked in this manner. Perhaps the other 3 pads
could be thicker to compensate for the flange. The tray on my unit is flush with the casework on the right side and protrudes 
slightly on the left side. The remote control has a better look than previous units. I really like the buttons being a different 
color than the body of the remote as opposed to everything being all black as before. Also, having more space between the buttons
is a BIG plus for those of us with larger fingers. One thing that is better on the old remote is the rounded edge on the top plate.
I wouldn’t call the new one sharp, but it is not as comfortable in the hand.

I have the DMP playing music in the background as I am typing this post. A very early impression is the DMP has improved
spatial cues from front to back of the soundstage and better definition overall. This is based on playing standard red book CD
on the DMP vs my well broken in PWT.

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Having listened to the DMP for a couple of hours, while still an early assessment, I am really appreciating the superb sense of timing
that I am hearing. As I look over my listening notes….better defined bass, more fleshed out notes, better focus, purity of tone….
I am realizing that what I am hearing has to do with a much improved level of timing over the PWT. This new level of timing delivers
a very natural sounding purity to both instruments and vocals. Fresh out of the box assessment……very impressive!

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I found a problem with the DMP when I play DVD Audio discs.  You cannot change tracks on it.  You have to play from beginning to end.  I press next track or any number on the remote or screen and the track goes back to one.  These are commercial discs also and not homemade.  I tried half a dozen or so and everyone is the same, no changing tracks.  I try these same disc on my Oppo Blu-ray player and there is no problem changing or skipping tracks so it’s not the discs.  I hope there is firmware to fix this.  Otherwise the sound of the DMP completely blows away the Oppo 95 player with DVD Audio or any other disc I try.  Hard to believe.  I thought digits are digits.

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FYI, for any of you that may care about DSD Discs, Dennis and I went back and forth, and found that if I re-ripped the discs, they work fine.  Not sure why at this point.  They all work in the Sony XA5400ES.  So maybe the difference of a few years of OS’s or something.

At any rate, now that I have the PS Audio NuWave Phono Pre/Converter, I will likely want to re-rip the vinyl wink  That’s the problem with ripping vinyl – you do it to your current state of the art, and you get a new: table, cart, arm, pre, recorder, etc. and you want to do it over again itwasntme_gif

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FYI, for any of you that may care about DSD Discs, Dennis and I went back and forth, and found that if I re-ripped the discs, they work fine. 

I probably just missed this, but what is a DSD disc that you can rip?

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I found a problem with the DMP when I play DVD Audio discs.  You cannot change tracks on it.  You have to play from beginning to end.  I press next track or any number on the remote or screen and the track goes back to one.  These are commercial discs also and not homemade.  I tried half a dozen or so and everyone is the same, no changing tracks.  I try these same disc on my Oppo Blu-ray player and there is no problem changing or skipping tracks so it’s not the discs.  I hope there is firmware to fix this.  Otherwise the sound of the DMP completely blows away the Oppo 95 player with DVD Audio or any other disc I try.  Hard to believe.  I thought digits are digits.

Thanks Clifton!

 

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